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"Developers Developers Developers" - what did Ballmer really mean?

Jeff’s having a good discussion over at A BizTalk Enthusiast : Transition from MSDN Universal to Visual Studio Team Edition about the new Team System Pricing.

I know, it’s a dead horse, along with DataSets versus BEs, VB.NET vs C#, and all the other *blog post topics that tend to crop up every month or two .  Remember, I’m an open source hippie, and pretty liberal to boot. I was raised that way, so it’s not really my fault, but it’s how I tend to think. So, here’s my take on MS charging lots and lots (enterprise prices) for Team System:

Ballmer said "Developers, Developers, Developers" right? 

Now,  if you’re like me, you heard this and thought of armies of developers, writing good code, saving the world – one unit test at a time.  Some of us  may have linked this sentiment to our own drive to create quality software systems that work, in some kind of “greater good” of software development way.  But we were really just kidding ourselves.  The real meaning of this statement was “… they’re they key to our success…” ie “…they’re the key to shareholder profit…”  We all really understood (even us hippies) that this statement really meant:

“Developers, Developers, Developers : this is how Microsoft will stay uber-profitable and continue to crush our enemies.”

Which is fine. No problem here with companies making money… Hey, even hippies have to retire and own boats.

But here’s where I’m a little confused.

If Ballmer really sees us developers as the key to MS making money,  why would they price Team System out of reach - and even un-license us MSDN subscribers from using parts of it?  Especially since we’re writing .NET code with the stuff.  It’s not like Java shops are going to be buying Team System and using it to manage the process of writing Linux code, are they?  Wasn’t he saying that MS needs to enable developers?  Isn’t this what you were saying Steve? 

Perhaps what Ballmer really meant is “Developers, Developers, Developers – We're not charging you guys enough!" 

Every day, I'm more and more interested in open source. 

I often wonder if I could do what I need to do without any MS software installed on my home computers.  Don’t get me wrong – I love Microsoft. I’ve lost friendshps over my love for them.   I just don’t love giving them too much of my money.  Hey, I’m already devoting my career to their technology, what more do they need from me? Revenue from the four computers I have sitting in my house?

Finally, a shameless self-serving announcement

I really like Telligent's open source model.  Information Week has a cover story on Open Source this week.  They’ve called it a “Boomlet.” I think they’re right.  I’ve decided to release WSMQ as an open source application, with a licensing structure similar to Telligent’s.  I’ll be posting more about that in the next few weeks.

-Brendan

* This BTW could be the fatal flaw with blogs and is a topic for another post “Cyclic Redundancy Patterns in Blog Post Topics” (the other fatal flaw is that people like me can comment on issues like this, and get a Google ranking companies would kill for .. is this really a good thing?).



Comments

Lorenzo Barbieri @ UGIblogs! said:

# July 13, 2005 7:46 AM

Anton Vishnyak said:

I think you completely misunderstood... Balmer said "Developers developers developers developers - write open source tools like NUnit, NDoc, and NAnt so that Microsoft can take those ideas, make them into a software package, and charge you an arm + leg to buy them from US."
# July 13, 2005 10:23 AM

Dave Burke said:

Anton, LOL!!!

BT, I share your opinion exactly! Very well said, and without being unnecessarily critical. You're right about MS developer tools pricing. I hadn't considered that point. Doesn't generate a lot of love. I guess that's why I post more entries about Steve Jobs than I do about Steve Ballmer.

Thanks for another excellent post.
# July 13, 2005 10:29 AM

Brendan Tompkins said:

Geesh. And I thought I was a cynic! :)
# July 13, 2005 10:29 AM

David said:

You guys make it sounds like every other IDEs out there are free
# July 13, 2005 11:12 AM

Darrell Norton's Blog [MVP] said:

Some of my fellow CodeBetter bloggers (Brendan and Jeff) have taken up the old “Team System is too expensive”...
# July 13, 2005 11:29 AM

paul.laudeman said:

Sorry, Brendan, but I just had to comment on this statement in particular:

"...and even un-license us MSDN subscribers from using parts of it"

From what I understand, Microsoft has not taken anything at all away from us simply because they never gave it to us in the first place.
# July 13, 2005 12:14 PM

Brendan Tompkins said:

Paul, yes you're right, of course. But if you've been a MSDN subscriber for years, this is really what it feels like... Doesn't it?

Look... we all have great long term relationships with this company, that doens't mean we all have to tow this party line all the time, does it?


# July 13, 2005 12:24 PM

paul.laudeman said:

I don't think I'm 'towing the company line', heck, you know me, I'm usually not at all reserved in my opinions :).

Historically, Microsoft has never given away all the jewels of their kingdom in a Universal subscription, like games, personal productivity software, etc., or I would have bought one long ago for myself... especially since Age of Empires III is coming out this fall! :)
# July 13, 2005 1:34 PM

Brendan Tompkins said:

Paul, I didn't mean you're towing the party line.. Really!
# July 13, 2005 1:39 PM

Geoff Appleby said:

I was going to leave a comment here. But then I read Darrell's response...and he said it all for me :)
# July 13, 2005 4:00 PM

darrell said:

I just want to state that I do understand why you're feeling jipped Brendan. (jipped for readers that don't know is feeling like someone scammed you)

I felt a lot more like you about this whole thing until Microsoft changed their pricing and gave 5 CALs to the upgrade role edition in MSDN Universal.
# July 14, 2005 5:59 AM

Rob Caron's Blog said:

Visual Studio Team System

There’s a new Team System community site – TeamSystemRocks.com! ⊕
Well,...
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# December 21, 2005 1:35 PM

Brendan Tompkins [admin] said:

It’s been one year since CodeBetter.Com first opened it’s doors and I can hardly believe it’s been that long. I’ve been reflecting on where to go from here, and looking back at the highlights from the last year. I’m pretty damn proud of the guys cranking out all of these posts, and pretty damn thankful for all of you out there who have participated, in this community. You’ve kept us in line, helped us learn, and spread the word. Our RSS subscriptions put us up there as one of the most subsc
# December 21, 2005 1:44 PM

Brendan Tompkins [admin] said:

It’s been one year since CodeBetter.Com first opened it’s doors and I can hardly believe it’s been that long. I’ve been reflecting on where to go from here, and looking back at the highlights from the last year. I’m pretty damn proud of the guys cranking out all of these posts, and pretty damn thankful for all of you out there who have participated, in this community. You’ve kept us in line, helped us learn, and spread the word. Our RSS subscriptions put us up there as one of the most subsc
# December 21, 2005 1:45 PM

Brendan Tompkins [admin] said:

It’s been one year since CodeBetter.Com first opened it’s doors and I can hardly believe it’s been that long. I’ve been reflecting on where to go from here, and looking back at the highlights from the last year. I’m pretty damn proud of the guys cranking out all of these posts, and pretty damn thankful for all of you out there who have participated, in this community. You’ve kept us in line, helped us learn, and spread the word. Our RSS subscriptions put us up there as one of the most subsc
# December 21, 2005 1:46 PM

Brendan Tompkins [admin] said:

It’s been one year since CodeBetter.Com first opened it’s doors and I can hardly believe it’s been that long. I’ve been reflecting on where to go from here, and looking back at the highlights from the last year. I’m pretty damn proud of the guys cranking out all of these posts, and pretty damn thankful for all of you out there who have participated in this community. You’ve kept us in line, helped us learn, and spread the word. Our RSS subscriptions put us up there as one of the most subsc
# December 21, 2005 3:40 PM

Brendan Tompkins [admin] said:

It’s been one year since CodeBetter.Com first opened it’s doors and I can hardly believe it’s been that long. I’ve been reflecting on where to go from here, and looking back at the highlights from the last year. I’m pretty damn proud of the guys cranking out all of these posts, and pretty damn thankful for all of you out there who have participated in this community. You’ve kept us in line, helped us learn, and spread the word. Our RSS subscriptions put us up there as one of the most subsc
# January 13, 2006 10:29 AM

Brendan Tompkins [admin] said:

It’s been one year since CodeBetter.Com first opened it’s doors and I can hardly believe it’s been that long. I’ve been reflecting on where to go from here, and looking back at the highlights from the last year. I’m pretty damn proud of the guys cranking out all of these posts, and pretty damn thankful for all of you out there who have participated in this community. You’ve kept us in line, helped us learn, and spread the word. Our RSS subscriptions put us up there as one of the most subsc
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# May 12, 2006 4:03 PM

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Brendan has been programming with .NET since the first public beta and is owner and operator of Port Technology Services, a consultancy company providing .NET application development services to the Maritime industry. In July, 2007, he was awarded the Microsoft MVP award for ASP.NET. He's also a proud co-founder of failed .COM startup Intrinsigo, and has had a hand in the failure of numerous other businesses. He currently runs CodeBetter.Com and Devlicio.us, and lives in Norfolk, Virgina with his wife Tiara and son Ian.

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