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Attn: Coding Slaves

I just finished listening to the latest Franklins.Net DotNetRocks episode with “Coding Slave” author Bob Reselman; Bob really impressed me (when he could get a word in between the two hosts -- Carl Franklin and Rory Blyth) and Bob's perspective on outsourcing, humans and software, and other topics is really refreshing to hear. I'm going to get his book and check out his site www.CodingSlave.com. From what I've heard, guys like Brendan Tompkins should definitely check out the book (Brendan had a blog frenzy on outsourcing a few weeks back) . . . for that matter, any developer with a little experience and a little introspection may get a lot out of the “Coding Slave“ book.

For the record, I really like DotNetRocks and appreciate the void they fill on my longer drives to work . . . on the other hand, I'm surprised at times when host (and developer) Carl Franklin doesn't know things like what Model-View-Controller is. I cringe since he often claims to represent the VB community at large.

I can't rag on the DotNetRocks guys much, though, because there's lots of stuff I don't know and, as Mark Bonafe has said: “No One Knows All“, but I figured an accomplished teacher and developer such as Carl Franklin would have learned something like MVC a long time ago!

Happy .Netting

Published Apr 15 2004, 12:52 PM by grant.killian

Comments

Scott said:

The fact that Carl doesn't know about MVC doesn't surprise me too much since he seems more focused on WinForms development. While MVC certainly applies in a Forms based application, I've mostly seen it applied in Web based applications. ASP.NET is almost entirely based on an MVC pattern even if they don't officially call it that. At least I can always look at an ASP.NET application and rationalize the MVC pattern into it. :)

# April 15, 2004 11:41 AM

Jay Kimble said:

Just a different perspective (go back and listen to the Carl interview... the one where Carl gets interviewed)...

I think he plays the "stupid host" often (to make sure that the listener knows what MVC is...)

# April 15, 2004 3:26 PM

JosephCooney said:

I also suspect Carl plays the "dumb host" to get people to open up a bit more. I've seen some guys do presentations and felt they were a bit too "simple" and obvious, and then later talked to the presenters and realized how technically deep they were. They just wanted to get their message across and make it accessible.

# April 16, 2004 3:03 AM

Brendan Tompkins said:

Thanks for pointing this out Grant! This is a fascinating show! Funny because I have a noon deadline, but I keep getting distracted by the conversation on the show. Oh well, sometimes you have to prioritize. My client will have to wait...

# April 16, 2004 4:01 AM

Grant said:

Brendan - I thought you'd like this particular one. You just need to find some work that's far enough away and then you can listen to DNR while you commute to their offices. I get my DNR fix via my MP3 player while making the trip from Williamsburg to Virginia Beach for the ODU/ITPro teaching I do (30-45 minutes).

If I drove like Brian "Mario" Lamprecht, I'd only have 10 minutes to listen . . . but that's another topic entirely.

# April 16, 2004 4:06 AM

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