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re: Making your code easier to understand context/specification style unit tests

Scott — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:12:31 GMT

Agreed on multiple test organizational patterns per project. c/s lends itself very well to business-value-driven design, and feels forced when you drop into "internals" or integration-style tests, where class-per-fixture begins to make more sense. I think it's a shifting target, and ou have to constantly evaluate what you are getting out of the practice and how you can improve it.

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re: Making your code easier to understand context/specification style unit tests

Larry Battle — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:37:14 GMT

When you release your code, what happens to the test functions?

Does it go into your documentation and ship it or do you erease it because it's a one time thing?

I'm new to the unit testing.

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re: Making your code easier to understand context/specification style unit tests

Ian Cooper — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:20:05 GMT

@Mike

I have not looked at MSpec but noting that someone else has posted about MSpec and Boo might well take a look

re: Making your code easier to understand context/specification style unit tests

Daniel Fernandes — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:43:20 GMT

Agreed at 100%.

Traditional TDD style tests are fine for driving design of a purely technical piece of code where you can probably guarantee that you're always within the realm of unit testing and not diverging too much into integration testing.

I think that the different forms of tests organization as advocated in BDD are very useful in that most often than not the organisation will closely match the various specifications a system/component is supposedly implementing.

The only issue in BDD is to find the various core contexts that are worth setting up and then testing.

But those contexts are really the state parts of the application can be in and if you can do that properly you will have highly tested AND maintainable code.

Daniel