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There are two types of developers in the world

Those that say "Goo-id" and those that say "Gwid" (rhymes with Squid)


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John Wood said:

And those who say e-num vs. those who say e-noom.

# October 26, 2006 4:10 PM

Jacob said:

I only recently started pronouncing "sub-version" "subversion". http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn-committers/trunk/sounds/pronunciation/index.html

# October 26, 2006 4:13 PM

Jeremy D. Miller said:

It's not Spiderman, it's "Spider" - "man" -- for the Phoebe fans

# October 26, 2006 4:14 PM

Chris Brandsma said:

Dont forget these:

Gif vs Jif (like the penut butter)

Measure (like pleasure) vs Maiser (like Phaser)

Toople  vs Tuple

# October 26, 2006 4:25 PM

Andrew Peters said:

YAGNI the other syllable - It's gwid!

# October 26, 2006 5:13 PM

Haacked said:

And the good developers *know* it's pronounced gwid, jif, toopl, e-num.

;)

Actually, I'm a poor reference for pronounciation. I used to pronounce "Yahoo" as "Ya-hoo" ("a" as in cat) rather than "Yah-hoo" (a as in father).

# October 26, 2006 5:16 PM

Chas said:

var (varr) vs. (vare)

char (as in charcoal) vs. (care)

PNG (spelled out) vs. (ping)

I say gif as "jif." I also punch people who pronounce URL as "Earl."

# October 26, 2006 5:34 PM

shebert said:

Sequel vs. S-Q-L

cash vs. cash-ay

# October 26, 2006 7:05 PM

Andre said:

How about those that say it as G-U-I-D? :P

so there are three types of developers in the world...

# October 26, 2006 8:27 PM

Bil Simser said:

For me:

* it's goo-id. I've heard some say gwid, but I think that's just wrong.

* "jif", not "gu-if".

* "URL" not "Earl" (funny).

* "ch-ar" not "car" (or "care", or "truck" or volkswagon)

* "cash" not "cash-eh" (I'm Canadian, same as "porshe" not "porsch-a")

* "enum" not anything else (never heard enoom)

Also I say "iteration" while a guy at our office keeps saying "eyeteration". Drives me freakin' nuts.

# October 26, 2006 8:30 PM

Jeremy D. Miller said:

Bil,

That's funny, 've always heard Canuck's saying "eye-teration"

How about the British pronunciation of "shedule" vs. schedule with a hard c?

# October 26, 2006 8:34 PM

ScottBellware said:

Canuck's don't say eye-teration - but other anglo subjects of the Common Wealth do... and rather coarse ones at that.

# October 26, 2006 10:16 PM

David Kemp said:

pot-8-o vs pa-tart-a?

Let's call the whole thing off

# October 27, 2006 2:57 AM

Dave Beer said:

The difference pronounciation of cache & schedule gets me. I'm a kiwi who listens to American webcasts, but I work in the UK.

So I get a little teased when I say 'Caysh' instead of 'Cash' (for cache).

I've learnt to drop the hard c for schedule though... :-)

# October 27, 2006 5:22 AM

John Woodard said:

Goo-id is an attempt at using the GUI as the root of the word, which isn't really a word but a pronounced acronym.

However, the word Guid does actually appear in the english language as part of the word Languid.  Pronounced \LANG-gwid\.  So by prescedence the goo-id people are mis-pronouncing the word.

Let's not forget the R in Wash for you country folk (warsh).

# October 27, 2006 5:37 AM

John Woodard said:

For enum (which some are asserting is pernounced with a num as in number), it should be pronounced enoom, as it is an abbreviation of the word Enumeration or Enumerate, and saying those with a hard Num just sounds silly.

This one surprises me because unlike the others, which are made up, enum is actually an abbreviation of a bigger word so there really isn't any squishiness.

# October 27, 2006 5:43 AM

Ian Horwill said:

Lin-ooks vs ly-nux

# October 27, 2006 7:40 AM

mgroves said:

Inventors of GIF format (Compuserve) say: "guh-iff", not juh-iff.  I'll go with them.

# October 27, 2006 9:09 AM

Sahil Malik said:

Vista versus Veesta

# October 27, 2006 9:43 AM

Jeremy D. Miller said:

Veesta bugs me.  This ex-Austinite wants to bring back "Longhorn"

# October 27, 2006 9:49 AM

Jay R. Wren said:

How about GUID as GUI-D.  like "gooey" of GUI and "dee" of D.

It is fun because you can ryhme it with Mike D when making nerd rap.

I gots my sorted gooey dees

like rhymes from mike dees

;)

# October 27, 2006 1:10 PM

Jordan said:

For hard vs. soft pronounciation of GIF, I always argue that the G stands for Graphic (as in Graphics Interchange Format).  The G in Graphic is hard.  Hence, Guh-IF, not Juh-IF.

:o)

# October 27, 2006 2:40 PM

Jordan said:

MGROVES:

From Wikipedia:

According to the creator of the "GIF" format, Steve Wilhite, the pronunciation is with a soft "g" and the acronym is pronounced like the peanut butter brand, Jif. To fellow employees of CompuServe he would often say "Choosy developers choose GIF", spinning off of the historically popular peanut butter commercial. This pronunciation was also identified by CompuServe in their documentation of a graphics display program called CompuShow. In the documentation for version 8.33 in the FAQ section, it states:[2]

   The GIF (Graphics Interchange Format), pronounced "JIF", was designed by CompuServe and the official specification released in June of 1987.

# October 27, 2006 2:42 PM

Alex Dresko said:

My goodness, there are some bass akwards people in these comments...

"care" not "char" because char is an abbreviation of character.. and if you were to remove "acter" from "character" you get the sound "care"... Very simple...

Same with GIF, not JIF.. GIF stands for Graphical Interchange Format (something like that).. not Jaffical Interchange Format...

Think about it, people..

# October 27, 2006 4:26 PM

Bil Simser said:

I still will say "JIF" not "GIF" even if the "G" is for Graphical. As for eye-teration, that's insane. It was the first time I heard it and I just cringe when he says it.

As for "shedule" vs "skedule", I say "skedule". Again I hear people say "shed" instead of "sked" and it irks me. It just sounds wrong to me.

Now don't get me started on the whole tomateo/tomato thing.

# October 27, 2006 7:35 PM

Thom said:

Wow, I thought I was being critiqued on my skills as a developer, not my vocabulary. No wonder I can't get those really high paying gigs (could I abbreviate gigs as GB, since most people refer to storage size like 250GB as two hundred and fifty gigs). Sheesh. I need to spend more time learning how to pronounce acronyms instead of learning how to write good solid code.

# October 29, 2006 5:32 PM

Ariel said:

There's also the word "Guib" (the BushBuck: Antelope with white markings like a harness and twisted horns) which is pronuounced 'gwib'

Who cares? I'm with Alex: it's a "Global YOO-nique Identifier" hence GOO-id.

And you probably want to know what the hell a Guib is: http://images.google.co.il/images?svnum=10&hl=iw&lr=&q=guib

# November 13, 2006 2:18 PM

Daniel Moth said:

For the record, the correct way is :-)

GUID - Goo-id

enum - e-num

char - char (not car)

Gif not jif

schedule - shedule obviously... let's remember people, the English invented the language, take heed.

All the other ones form the comments above that did not make my shortlist are for the wtf log. "Eyeteration"? WTF... Now I see where Eyeraq (Iraq=E-raq) comes from when I hear it on American news channels :)

How about "router" or"route"? Here it is spoken like: soup, you, through, pour, youth, gourmet, would/could/should, tour... basically the same as if it was "rooter". On that side of the pond it is said like [edited to avoid cringing]

# December 16, 2006 7:44 PM

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Jeremy began his IT career writing "Shadow IT" applications to automate his engineering documentation, then wandered into software development because it looked like more fun. Jeremy previously worked as a systems architect building mission critical supply chain software for a Fortune 100 company and learned agile development practices as a .Net consultant at ThoughtWorks, one of the pioneers of agile development. Jeremy is the author of the open source StructureMap (http://structuremap.sourceforge.net) tool for Dependency Injection with .Net and the forthcoming StoryTeller (http://storyteller.tigris.org) tool for supercharged FIT testing in .Net. Jeremy's thoughts on just about everything software related can be found on his weblog "The Shade Tree Developer" at http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller, part of the popular CodeBetter site. Jeremy is a Microsoft MVP for C#. Check out Devlicio.us!

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