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Karl Seguin

.NET From Ottawa, Ontario

does www.asp.net really need ads?

Call this mindless rambling on a sunday, but does www.asp.net really need to have banner ads all over the place?  Aside from the homepage, almost every page has 1 or 2 banner ads.  There in the forums, all over the tutorials and cleverly placed on the blogs.  I find it funny that Microsoft is in need of generating a bit of extra revenue, while:

php.net and any of it's mirrors, has no ads. 

Sun's JSP homepage, has no ads Ruby

Ruby on Rails homepage, has no ads Perl

Perl was the only competitor's site where I found a few ads.

The ads make the site less professional looking and make it feel a little dishonest - like a used car salesman.

 

 

 



Comments

Jeremy D. Miller said:

I get your point, but there's an ad for some sort of software training just to the left of the comment form as I type this.  The ads sure beat us having to pay for hosting.

As long as Google ads stops putting up CMMI consulting ads on my blog.

# October 15, 2006 11:08 AM

karl said:

Jeremy

I hear ya...but there's a difference between a privately hosted site like this, and a Microsoft-owned site like www.asp.net.  (a) hosting costs for Microsoft should be peanutes compared to us and (b) it's the cost of doing business for Microsoft.

# October 15, 2006 12:22 PM

Scott said:

Blame telligent - they provide the managed service for asp.net, and it was their choice to try to monetize asp.net via adverts as they weren't making enough money to cover their time.

# October 15, 2006 4:23 PM

karl said:

I don't know what agreements exist between MS and Telligent. That Microsoft doesn't see it as worthwhile to pay someone a reasonable price to manage the site ad-free is lame.

Running www.asp.net is just a cost of doing business. It's a support and marketing cost, and my guess is a relatively small one compared to how many Windows machines are bought to run websites and how much money is made off their development products. There's no good reason to compromise the integrity of the product. What next, VS.NET Express will be ad-supported?!

Whether Telligent charges too much, or Microsoft pays too little, kill the ads, k?

# October 15, 2006 8:04 PM

Bill said:

Make sure you don't consider the upside to having advertisements on asp.net.  The companies that pay for exposure on asp.net are reaching a large number of asp.net users.  Most of the same companies that run ads on asp.net also advertise in MSDN magazine.  Surely MS has enough money to not run ads in their magazine.  When a new product is released, a company can either bribe an editor to cover their product or by an ad on a website.

Aside from the ugly Google Ads, most of the ads on asp.net fit well with the site.  Maybe if they had the popup ads that cover the screen and wouldn't close when you wanted them to, I would support your grievance.

# October 18, 2006 11:54 AM

karl said:

Bill, you don't think it's a little disingenous?  Almost like an endorsement. Most of the ads don't mark them as such anywhere...I realize that the audience should be fairly technical and be able to automatically block out ads....but still...

If it's really a matter of informing people...I'd like to know where that money goes...

# October 18, 2006 7:31 PM

Bill said:

I was definitely endorsing MS's behavior on this.  As far as MS endorsing a product, I don't consider it endorsement if MS runs an ad.  They do the same thing in their magazine, everyone does.  I don't think it is endorsement to take advertising revenue.  MS is saying, however, that company has a good reputation.

I've used the asp.net site and like all sites, I just learn where their ads are and avoid looking at them.

I'm sure the money goes to the people running the site; I hope MS isn't using slave labor for it.  

# October 20, 2006 10:18 PM

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