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Does anti virus software make sense ?

To start with a provacative answer : I don't think it does on the client. Two recent horror stories:

  • Norton anti virus is notorious. I've been doing a lot with COM, a major part of FAQ lists and support was dealing with nav disrupting automation functionality. This weekend I receievd an email from someone appologizing for not having replied before. Norton had been blocking all of his outgoing mail for over a week.
  • Someone else had made big investments in virus protection. Installed a lot of software and set up update subscriptions. Monday morning in his office. He switches on his computer, checks his mail, checks for virus-updates.... Bang.... Virus.

The second is imho the keypoint why it makes no sense to have client side virus protection. Your mail provider should do the check. And most of them do. But the time gap between a new virus and an update of the profile at the provider is long enough for a virus to get through. If a big provider, whose is on the allert 24 hours a day, can't even catch all (and I don't blame them), how do you expect to keep up ?

The only thing that does help is a good procedure. The user (and all his employees !) in the second case should have checked for the virus update before checking his mail. I use this procedure

  1. Never click an unknown attachment
  2. Make sure your machines have an IP address which is by definition unreachable. (192.168.x.x)

I have no virus scanner and neither me or my wife or my kids have (so far) been infected. I even challenge you to try to get through :>

Peter

 


Posted 06-01-2004 8:02 AM by pvanooijen

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Lorenzo Barbieri wrote re: Does anti virus software make sense ?
on 06-01-2004 5:20 AM
I haven't used AV for years without being infected.

I think that if your PC is patched, it's your fault if you get a virus.

But now I use an AV because of corporate policies, and I keep it updated every day.
Tom Mertens wrote re: Does anti virus software make sense ?
on 06-01-2004 7:17 AM
I agree that keeping your software up-to-date and some smart thinking helps you reduce the thread of having a virus. However, I do use an AV software and a firewall as an extra layer of protection. I never trust any attachment (since many virusses spoof the sender's identity) received through e-mail unless I know that I can expect a specific attachment from a certain person.

I also do agree that mails should be checked for virusses at the mail server's end. This is why I find it horrible that ISP's (in Belgium) charge extra for this service. Many people don't pay the extra amount, even though it is really small (EUR 1.5/month & mailbox at Telenet Belgium). It's my opinion that AV for e-mail should always be included in the monthly subscription fee. And please, configure mail server that they do not send an e-mail back to the "supposed" sender informing him that his mail was rejected because it contains an e-mail...

To conclude, it's my opinion that one should use extra layers of defence. After all, we're all humans and we can make a mistake. In the case of non-IT users, the possibility of a wrong judgement is even bigger. So my advice is: install AV software, put your PC behind a firewall (or use the Windows XP Firewall), do not do your daily work under an account with administrative privileges, think smart and act wisely when dealing with e-mail, websites and IM, keep your software up-to-date, etc...
Brian Beatty wrote re: Does anti virus software make sense ?
on 06-01-2004 5:36 PM
I got hit by a virus today, First time in years.
The only reason I knew about it was because I was running AV software.
Luckily, it was caught before infecting and it was a pretty benign virus.
I was in a corporate environment. And I run Windows Update. If I didn't have AV software running I would have never known I got hit.
The reason I got hit was I had a writable shared directory.
Peter van Ooijen wrote re: Does anti virus software make sense ?
on 06-02-2004 6:47 AM
Don't take my word to literally. The point I am trying to make, by presenting these two horror stories, is that AV software does not guarantee the things the user expects. And that AV software, specifically Norton, has some very anti-productive side effects.
Peter's Gekko wrote Security hits back again.
on 06-07-2004 10:29 PM
Security hits back again.

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